Mortgages

February 8th, 2011

Canadian mortgages have some quite subtle differences from the UK system so I have no doubt they will be fairly new to most nationalities. Whichever type of home you buy, the chances are you will need a mortgage. There are many different methods of financing a home buying purchase that are unique to Canada:

Assuming a mortgage – This involves taking over the sellers mortgage and negates the need to arrange your own financing. The rate you take on may well be fixed lower than the rates on offer and you should not be required to pay appraisal and other setup costs. In some cases you will not have to qualify for the mortgage either, though this depends on the original terms imposed by the lender. Normally, you will have to buy out the part of the mortgage already paid off by the current lender.

Standard mortgage – Most major banks will lend up to 65% of the appraised value to immigrants before they have permanent employment as part of a welcome to Canada package. This will depend on individual circumstances and obviously will not be available to some people. Once you are working in full time employment, normal rules should apply.

Vendor Take Back – Basically, the seller of the property will lend some or all of the cash required to buy at terms negotiated between you. This is very attractive to buyers who will not normally qualify for a mortgage. The debt may be sold to a third party but the original terms should apply.

With such a major part of your new life on the table it is definitely worth using the services of a Professional Mortgage Broker. That way, all the options for financing will be thoroughly explained, sound advice on the best options for your individual circumstances can be given and access to mortgage funds can be arranged for most people under the most favorable terms.

Under international money laundering laws, ALL mortgage providers will now require proof of origin of any funds used to purchase a property. It is essential that any lawyers closing statements for house sales, money transfer receipts, savings statements and bank records are made available when you apply for a mortgage. Basically ensure you have a verified “paper trail” for your money!

Finally, most Canadian employers will pay every 2 weeks and so it makes sense to pay your mortgage “bi-weekly”. This means you will make 13 payments a year instead of 12 and so will pay the mortgage off faster.

With Canadian home buying , if you have to borrow more than 75% of the appraised value of the home it is considered a high ratio mortgage and Mortgage Loan Insurance will be needed.

Mortgages. The Return Of The Mega-Mortgage.

February 1st, 2011

With the housing market is now showing marked signs of recovery, especially in the South and London, the number of homeowners mortgaging for more than 500,00 is increasing. (Also see Latest Market Facts at the end of this article.)

Previously, prospective borrowers for these mega mortgages have experienced a mixed reception from the lenders sometimes the lenders would provide the facility but viewed them as higher risk. For that reason lenders typically charged a premium rate of interest. But no longer. The tide has turned.

Mega mortgages have well and truly joined the mainstream and lenders are now competing hard for the business. Instead of facing a premium, borrowers are being offered around a quarter of a percent less than comparable deals for more normal sized mortgages. This is because lenders are increasingly basing their lending decisions on the borrowers ability to afford the mortgage with lesser emphasis being placed on the security provided by the property. It also helps that interest rates remain low.

If youre a potential mega mortgage borrower, youll find that the banks will generally be the most welcoming. Compared to building societies and other mortgage lenders, banks tend to set higher lending limits. Some smaller lenders still set a cap at 500,000 whilst others restrict the amount theyll lend against an individual property. But perhaps the best way of finding a really competitive mega mortgage is to go through a specialist mortgage broker. In the current market, any broker worth their salt will be able to source a great deal on six and seven figure mortgages.

For example, the Halifax will lend up to 90% on a 4.49% fixed rate for a two years on mortgages up to 2 million. And the arrangement fee is just 499. If youve got a larger deposit, at least 25%, then there are several other deals around at 3.99% – again for a two year fix usually with a fee of just a quarter of a percent.

Latest House Market Facts

In March, the average achieved sales price was 94% of the asking price.

The average number of viewings to sales was 11.
During March house prices in England and Wales rose by 0.5% driven by buoyant London market. London prices grew by 1.1%.

This is the fourth month in succession of house price growth. Its also the highest monthly rise since the summer 2004.

Over the last 12 months house prices rose by 0.1%.

The performance of the London market results from of a number of factors:

A shortage of new housing coming onto the market
London has underperformed in terms of house price growth over the last few years. This in turn has meant that incomes and house prices in the capital are more closely aligned than in other regions.

In other parts of England and Wales, levels of affordability remain stretched.

At a local level away from London, prices have picked up mainly in cities in the South of England. Berkshire (0.7%) and East Sussex (0.6%) performed well.

Cities in the North saw slower price growth, with Newcastle, Liverpool, and Manchester all reporting growth of just 0.1%.

The under-performing counties were Derbyshire (-0.1%) and the Isle of Wight (-0.1%).

The areas reporting the highest rises in March were all across London: Central London & City (1.9%), East London (1.4%), North London (1.2%), West London (1.2%), South-West London (1.0%) and South-East London (0.8%).

In March the national average house price stood at 162,500.

Mortgages. The Pitfall Of Interest Only Mortgages.

January 25th, 2011

In the first three months of 2002, just 9% of all new mortgages were taken as interest only – but by the last quarter of 2005, the figure had risen to 23%. And amongst first time buyers, the figures rose from 6% to 15%. (Source: Council of Mortgage Lenders.)

The reason is obvious. It’s down to family economics. With an interest only mortgage, the monthly repayments only repay the ongoing interest so your monthly repayment is low. Repayment of the capital borrowed is delayed to the end of the mortgage when it has to be repaid as a lump sum.
So the popularity of interest only mortgages is a reflection of borrowers wanting to minimise their fixed monthly outgoings in order to preserve their lifestyle they still want their nice cars, nights out and holidays abroad. But their reluctance to cut back on their life style spending, combined with steadily rising house prices, could be storing up problems for the future. If they’re not repaying some of the capital now, how are they going to repay it?

Egged on by the concerns voiced by the Financial Services Authority (FSA), many lenders are now becoming much stricter when assessing an application for an interest only mortgage. They’re insisting that there’s a viable repayment vehicle in place before they’ll payout the money. These repayment vehicles could be the tax-free cash forecast from a pension policy, or an ISA or some other regular investment or savings scheme. The danger is that having got the mortgage, the borrower subsequently cancels their savings scheme.

If that were to happen, when retirement finally arrives accompanied by the looming commitment to repay the mortgage capital, they’ll be faced with having to sell their home and down size simply to free up money to repay the mortgage. And that’s a scenario that lenders and the FSA are anxious to avoid.

Twenty years ago interest only mortgages were the accepted norm with endowment policies being used as the most popular investment to repay the capital. But as we now know, returns on endowment policies have not been as high as many had assumed. This has left thousands of homeowners with a capital repayment shortfall. Endowment policies have certainly failed to be the guaranteed repayment solution that many of us had assumed twenty years ago. So, in today’s economic and investment environment, how certain can you be of any scheme to repay the capital?

When the shortcomings of endowment policies slowly became understood, interest only mortgages fell out of favour and repayment mortgages took over as the norm. But once again the pendulum is swinging. Interest only mortgages are back in a big way. It’s the result of high house prices and people straining to get onto and up the housing ladder without wanting to economise on other areas of their spending.

We’re sure that the pressures within family finances will continue to fuel the demand for interest only mortgages. However, it becomes the duty of mortgage brokers and the lenders to point out the alternatives open to their clients.

In the past, a 25 year mortgage term has been the norm for a young buyer. But now they can stretch the repayment period to 30, even 35 years. This makes the payments on a repayment mortgage far more affordable.

For example, the monthly repayments for a 125,000 repayment mortgage over 25 years at say, 4.9% cost 731.69 per month, but if the repayment period was stretched to 35 years, the repayment drops to 628.16 per month, a cash flow saving of 103.53.

The idea is that as and when family finances permit, borrowers can reduce the capital outstanding by making optional lump sum repayments. In practice, people tend to move house every eight to ten years and at each move a new mortgage has to be organised. These moves then represent an obvious opportunity to reassess long-term family finances.

But other solutions are available. You could arrange a mortgage where part of the loan is on a repayment basis with the balance on interest only. It’s a mid way option. At least these types of mortgage start the repayment process and later when you move home or the family income builds, you can take the opportunity to reassess the most suitable type of mortgage.

But please bear in mind that you shouldn’t speculate when it comes to your home finances. Mortgages are complicated and there is never just one solution. Our advice is take professional advice and use a mortgage broker who can search the entire market.

Mortgages. Short Term Advice

January 18th, 2011

There are some new types of home loans coming onto the market which are being advertised at present. Several of the mortgage companies are offering variation of them and they are being marketed as lifetime loans. So might this be the end of the short-term mortgage? Not necessarily so, it appears that there are still bargains out there for those prepared to shop around.

Mortgage brokers usually advise discounted short term mortgages and advise clients to regularly shop around after the two year discount has come to an end to obtain an even better deal. These clients are known to the insurers as rate tarts. But who can blame them for obtaining the best possible deal, especially as the broker does all the work for them, making the whole procedure painless and trouble free.

First of all, if you need to borrow over 150,000 the above advice is still without a doubt the very best and asking your broker to shop around for discounted rates is, in our opinion, essential.

For borrowers of less than 150,000, some of these new mortgages appearing on the market initially sound tempting. They are classed as low-rate lifetime loans. Abbey and Woolwich are two of the building societies offering flat-rate low cost home loans, amongst others.

The Woolwich has a lifetime tracker mortgage rate which has a guarantee of staying at 0.19 percentage points above base rate. At present the Bank of Englands base rate is 4.50%, therefore the rate is 4.69%.

Conversely, the Portman Building Societys two year fixed rate plan presently stands at 4.19%, still cheaper than the Woolwich lifetime. You do, however, have to factor in the cost of shopping around, which we have listed:

Legal fees 350 on average.
Application fee 499.
Valuation fee 300 on average.
Deeds release fee 199.

This is worked out on a loan of 150,000. The above sums come to just under 1,350 and the saving on interest over the Woolwich comes out at 1,500. This means that there is a very small saving on the Portman deal at two years. You would need to find another tempting deal and be ready to switch to it at the end of this period as a 6.5 per cent rate would come into force otherwise.

Abbeys Flexible Plus tracker has a slightly higher rate than the Woolwich, at 5.09% but, as the name implies, it is very flexible and will allow you to reduce the amount of money borrowed by offsetting your mortgage and also permitting you to withdraw money from the mortgage. One advantage is that you can make use of the mortgage as a type of savings account. Money withdrawn is charged at the mortgage rate.

To sum up, these new loans do seem to be competitive, but the mortgage market alters all the time if youre out for the very best deals, check with your on-line broker and find out whats available out there. Theyll search the whole market and get you the very best deal. Thats what theyre there for!

Mortgages. Higher Lending Charges Are Outrageous.

January 11th, 2011

After you scraped together a modest deposit for your new home you may think you’re home and dry. Think again. On top of there’s the surveyors and solicitors to pay. Then the government want a slice. You’ve got to pay stamp duty at 1% of the property’s price (if the house costs more than 250,000 the rate of stamp duty increases see the information at the foot of this article). Phew! You’re lucky you’ll just make it you’ll be a homeowner at last!

Then out of the blue the mortgage lender sends you a new bill another 1,500 please Sir. They’ve called it a Higher lending Charge (HLC) and it’s charged if you borrow more than 90% of the value of the house. About 75% of all mortgage lenders charge it and 1,500 is about the average they ask for.

And guess what they money you pay won’t benefit you in any way whatsoever! Not one jot. You’re being charged for a form of protection insurance that protects the mortgage lender, not you. The HLC pays the lender if you default on your mortgage, your property has to be repossessed and the sale proceeds are less than the outstanding balance on your mortgage. In theory the HLC then pays out the shortfall to the lender but in practice many lenders carry the risk themselves so the HLC is just an extra fee to offset a higher lending risk.

But an HLC doesn’t let you off the hook! If your home is repossessed and there’s a shortfall, you still have to pay the shortfall back to your lender – they’re sure to chase you for the money.

Whilst most of the lenders who charge HLC’s will readily agree to add the charge to your mortgage, that’s little consolation. In any case this means that you’ll end up paying interest on top of the charge. Then, over a 25-year term, your HLC will have cost you closer to 2,700!

In our opinion HLC’s should have died out with the dinosaurs. If a lender is worried you’ll default, they shouldn’t have lent the money in the first place. And with all today’s hi-tec credit checks and the risk based assessments used to process your application, you’d think the lenders were doing enough to protect themselves. In any case you may also end up paying a small interest premium for a 90% plus mortgage so in practice you’re being charged twice for the same risk!

The Nationwide Building Society, who incidentally do not charge HLC’s, recently reported that during the last five years 1 billion has been charged in HLC’s by some 800,000 borrowers. It also found that just over 500,000 were first time buyers largely youngsters struggling to buy a home. We believe that HLC’s are just another money making ploy for the mortgage lenders. By the way, the Higher Lending Charge used to be called a Mortgage Indemnity Guarantee, but they are all the same – only the name is different!

We think it’s time for the Office of Fair Trading to open up the box and take a look inside in the same way as they did with credit cards. The OFT recently ordered many credit cards to reduce their charges by up to 40%. A bit of that magic would do wonders for Higher Lending Charges!

Current Stamp Duty rates on house purchases in the UK

Houses under 125,000 No Stamp Duty

Houses 125,000 to 249,995* 1%
Houses 250,000 to 499,995* 3%
Houses over 500,000 4%

*HM Inland Revenue rounds up house prices to the nearest 5. Therefore, a house sold for between 249,996 and 249,999 will be rounded up to 250,000 and they’ll charge you 3% Stamp Duty on the lot!

Information correct as from the April Budget 2006.

Mortgages. First-Time Buyers Let Down By The Governments Homebuy Scheme.

January 4th, 2011

Mortgages. First-Time Buyers Let Down By The Governments Homebuy Scheme.

Late last year, accompanied by the usual razzmatazz, Gordon Brown announced the Governments new Open Market Homebuy mortgage scheme for first-time buyers.

Under the Homebuy scheme, first time buyers take out a mortgage for 75% of a home’s value with no deposit and the Government and the mortgage lender will in practice buy the remaining 25% of the property. Then when the borrower eventually decides to sell the property, the borrower will receive 75% of the net sales proceeds and the remaining 25% of the sale price will go to the Government and the mortgage lender. In the mean time, if the owner wishes to buy out all, or part, of the Governments or mortgage lenders 25% interest, the borrower can simply repay the money the Government and mortgage lender initially put in.- there will be no penalty.

In our view, first time buyers shouldn’t become too excited about this scheme for six reasons: –

The Government has recently confirmed that buyers will have to pay a 1% premium on top of the usual mortgage rate.

There has been no announcement as to the amount relative to income, which borrowers can qualify for. So at this stage it’s impossible to judge what sort of house a first-timer could buy. However, we bet it’s a very small one!

Despite hopes that more mortgage lenders would join the Yorkshire Building Society, the Halifax, and the Nationwide, as co-sponsors of the scheme, no additional lenders have been added to the list.

The Government expects Homebuy to lend to 4,000 first time buyers per year. That’s only fractionally over 1% of the 361,000 first time house purchases arranged each year. In terms of availability, it seems as if Homebuy mortgages are going to challenge hens teeth!

The Government hasn’t even announced the rules under which a first time buyer can qualify to even apply for a Homebuy mortgage.

The scheme is not planned to be operational until October 2006.

So even if you’re happy to pay the 1% premium, your chances don’t look too good for qualifying for an Open Market Homebuy mortgage. Our advice is to forget about them and find a top class mortgage broker to seek out a great deal on the open market.

Signs that our reticence is shared amongst Members of Parliament came from a comment from Michael Grove, shadow housing minister. He is reported as telling the Sunday Telegraph that he wanted to see the Homebuy scheme made easier and cheaper for lenders in order to encourage greater participation from the mortgage providers. We think that’s fine, but participate in what? Until we know who can apply and how much they can borrow, the scheme means nothing.

Mortgages for people with bad credit

December 28th, 2010

The most important factor that determines whether a person is can procure a loan for himself or not is the fact, whether is past credit history is stable enough or not. All factors depend on his past record of handling credits. A bad credit history implies that his appeal for a loan would be rejected and wont be met in most of the places. And the worst part is that, if the concerned individual in his past has ever been declared as bankrupt or had a foreclosure, then for sure the borrower would face difficulties when he tries to get a financing for a home mortgage purchase, home equity or second mortgage loan. But the gab that home loans are not available for people with bad credit history is just a baseless myth. Since these loans are available to people with bad credit history too. The way however to find such a kind of loan, however is to be to be persistent in looking out for such kind of loans, because there are home mortgage loans for people with bad credit.

The basic problems involving, the process of procuring loan arises from the activities of sub-prime lenders. These are those lenders who actually work really hard for fetching loans for the people with bad credit background and low credit score and then the charge absolutely unreasonable price for the job. Borrowers should be careful of borrowing money from sub-prime lenders, as they can charge high interest rates which, comparatively are too high than the market rate. Not only this, but these lenders also charge unreasonable pre-payment penalties. Online articles are posted in websites to inform the borrowers about their existence and caution them.
However, its not absolutely impossible to find lenders who give out loans at reasonable rates and agreeable charges, to people who have a bad credit history. All a borrower needs to do is look around and talk to different mortgage brokers, which would prove to be helpful to find a lender, that can get them an approved loan with a reasonable interest rate and fair terms of repayment.

Things that the borrower, should make sure about, are that he makes use of the lowest interest rate and terms possible. Specially a borrower with a bad credit history and bad credit score should make sure that he sends application for loans to a number of different lenders, since it would be sensible for him to make comparison between different mortgage loan quotes, so that he makes sure that he chooses the best one.

Mortgage Leads, Do Your Research

December 21st, 2010

You work hard for your money, so before you go investing in a mortgage lead company, be sure you take your time and do your research.

We have all heard about, or have experienced the pain first hand of being burned by a mortgage lead company. And although this may happen to loan officers more often than not, there are some good lead companies out there, where it is possible to get a good return on your investment.

It is only a matter of taking your time and doing your research.

It also has a lot to do with the type of lead you buy as well, so make sure you research exactly what it is that you are buying.

If a mortgage lead company is buying their leads in bulk from a third party company and selling them to loan officers at a profit, than that lead company is doing what is known as recycling leads. Or, to put it bluntly, they are selling junk.

And who knows how many times that third party company sold their leads to other mortgage lead companies.

If a lead company is obtaining their leads from sites they own and operate on their own, than chances are you will be receiving a good quality lead.

Especially if they sell their leads in real time, andor, exclusively.

The best way to find out about how a mortgage lead company obtains their leads is to call and speak with a live person in the customer service department.

Ask point blank, how they obtain their leads. If you dont like the answers you receive, than move onto the next company, there are enough of them. Its that simple.

Always remember, if you are not happy with customer service, than more than likely, you will not be happy with leads.

Making UK Mortgages More Accessible

December 14th, 2010

Previously, in the UK, if you wanted to apply for a mortgage to buy a new home, the amount that would be lent to you would be automatically tied to how much money you earned. With runaway UK housing prices over the last decade, and with incomes remaining fairly stable, this method of calculating how much you could borrow on a mortgage has become out dated. Today, many new home buyers need to look for more creative ways to borrow money if they want to buy a new home in Britain.

The Affordable Mortgage

Probably the most common of the new forms of mortgage is the affordable mortgage. Unlike mortgage that fixed to your earnings, affordable mortgages are calculated based on how much you can afford to repay each month once you have taken into consideration all of your other expenses. So, for example, if you have recently bought a new car on hire purchase and will be making hire purchase payments for the next three years, these hire purchase payments will be deducted from your salary and what remains will determine whether or not you can afford to repay the mortgage loan. UK affordable mortgage loans have allowed new home buyers to borrow as much as 50 percent of their monthly disposable income in mortgage repayments, which usually gives new home buyers a much better chance of buying a new home.

The Flexible Repayment Mortgage

Growing in popularity is the flexible repayment mortgage. As mentioned, traditional mortgages take into account what you current earnings are, how much you borrow, the interest rate, and then calculates, roughly, a monthly repayment that will be fixed (variable on interest) for the remaining 20 to 30 years of the mortgage term. Real life, however, is not like that. It is highly unlikely that youll be earning the same in 10 years time as you earn today. A flexible repayment mortgage takes this into consideration. It allows you increase your mortgage repayments over time. As such, within parameters, you are able to borrow more on your UK mortgage than you earn today on the expectation youll be earning more in the future.

The Current Account Mortgage

Strictly speaking, the current account mortgage is not a mortgage at all its an overdraft. As such, it is not restricted by the same lending ratio limits that traditionally apply when applying for a UK mortgage. Nonetheless, so long as you are financially disciplined enough not to be overly concerned with having to live with a large overdraft on a daily basis, this type of new UK home mortgage can mean the difference between being able to buy a house now and having to wait until you have enough of a deposit or a high enough salary to qualify for a traditional UK mortgage.

The world of UK consumer finance is forever evolving. To try and respond to recent demographic changes in the UK, and to ever rising costs of living in the UK, UK credit lenders are having to be more and more ingenious when it comes to obtaining new business. As such, if you find yourself in the position where you simply cannot afford to buy a new home on your current salary, dont give up, look around and see if you can find a UK home lender wholl agree to lend you the money to buy your new dream home on more flexible terms and conditions than was previously the case.

Lowest mortgage rates UK lowering the cost of mortgage

December 7th, 2010

Lowest mortgage rates UK lowering the cost of mortgage

Mortgage is the most widespread industry that offered to loan borrowers with real estate as collateral. Mortgage has so many innovations and opportunities that a loan borrower can exploit them for their own benefit. You must have heard and read it elsewhere that mortgage rates are at an all time low. That is true. With growing competition in the mortgage industry getting lowest rates for mortgage in UK is not that difficult.

Yes that is true, but how does one find lowest mortgage rates in UK. Many borrowers are practically clueless the criteria to decide on whether the mortgage rates are lowest or not. When you are looking for lowest mortgage rates in UK, you will see that there is not any one single rate. There is a list of rates. And when you go to different loan lenders for rates, they will give to you several mortgage rates list, sometimes identical sometimes different. What is going on? You think in your mind. Is there any thing as lowest mortgage rates in UK? Yes, there is.

You will come across this message everywhere go look around lowest mortgage rates. Look around how? nobody tells you that. It is like standing on the start line not knowing this way you have to run. Calling loan lenders and asking for lowest interest will be practically useless. Also calling for lowest mortgage rates at different days will give you different rates for mortgage rates are changing everyday.

Who is responsible for getting you lowest rate for your mortgage in UK? Economy? President? Government? Inflation? Discard all the high words! It is you and you are one of the most fundamental factor responsible for finding lowest interest rate on your mortgage. With mortgage borrowers absolutely flooding the market place, mortgage lenders are lowering the mortgage rates to attract more and more customers. How can one attract customers for mortgage? By offering lowest interest rates.

However, it is not that easy. Every homeowner wants lowest interest rates for its mortgage in UK. Lowest rates on mortgage in UK are subject to a borrowers personal financial condition. Therefore, different mortgage borrowers will have different lowest rate for mortgage. One way to figure it out is to apply for mortgage quotes at different loan lenders. But are these quotes really consistent keeping in mind the fact that mortgage rates are continually changing. Most loan lenders will give you a correct quote for mortgage. A mortgage borrower looking for lowest rate should use APR to compare rates. APR will enable you to know true interest rates on mortgage including the interest, discounts, mortgage insurance and other related fees. This will enable you to get a true quote without any hidden fee which the lender might be concealing behind the lowest mortgage rate claim.

Prequalification is a way of discovering whether for mortgage will also enable you to know whether you are getting lowest interest rates or not. A lender will see your present current income, debt and basic credit history situation in order to qualify you for a maximum mortgage amount. When you find lowest interest rate for mortgage in UK, you can lock in your interest rate. A lock means the lender will lock in the lowest interest rate and points for a specific period of time that is usually the time during which the loan application is processed.

Lowest interest rates in UK are possible if you have good credit history. A good credit history has innumerable benefits in the loan market. Also lowest interest rates are possible adjustable rate mortgage. Adjustable interest rate mortgage in UK have interest rates lower than traditional mortgage. Also loan term of a mortgage should be lesser. A 15 year mortgage will mean lower rate of interest than a 30 year mortgage. A shorter loan term will always save money.

No other single factor has so much effect on your mortgage as mortgage rates. Getting a mortgage in UK at lowest rates will mean that you have agreed to all those who asked you to get the best mortgage deal. A little decrease in interest rates would mean big in terms of savings. There is loads of information available on internet to know how the market is currently fairing. Dont settle for the first mortgage rate you stumble upon because they seem lowest. Go to different mortgage lenders. And then decide. Lowest rate for mortgage is not the only factor to look out while mortgaging for but it certainly is one of the deciding factors.

So while you are jumping frantically from one site to another in order to get lowest interest rate, you forget that it will need some patience and hard work. Like all good things it wont come easily. Lowest rates for mortgage in UK wont be served on a platter. No way. If you had enjoyed doing homework in school, looking for lowest interest rate wont be a problem. Look around, study research, read and you will find mortgage rates not only lowest but surpassing your own mortgage rate arithmetic.